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A reply to Adam Gary Conversing with Poets: Ubderstanding Poetry

in Poetry Discussion

I write here because my reply was too long in coming and too long for a youtube comment.

Whether it be a novel, a record or a poem critical acclaim and commercial success rarely coincide. Which is a problem for critics and educators whose curriculum is influenced by critical arguments. I think the problem comes because critics don't ground their analysis and comments to lay opinion; to determent of critical arguments. In days of T S Elliot, I have read extracts from his critical texts, he was concern that his opinion not simply be conceit. Whilst analysis done by practising poets, seem to embody T S Elliot's restraint, lots of modern critics 1

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Herb Hagell

Aug 24

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I think you are correct. We are taught, either in school or social media, to look for the negative. Thus we have a rise in trolling... it almost as if the point of achievement is the time for the vampires to suck the joy from success. Even a lot of poetry I read is built of the horrible side of chaos. Perhaps my own included, on occasion. There can be a beauty of sorts in a battlefield but our society does not want to see that enough. I'll probably edit this response as I ponder on it.

Adam Gary

Aug 25

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Perhaps you are on to something there. Critics probably come to the table with a “What’s NOT good” mindset before they’ve even opened the book, perhaps?

Athanase De Jadis

Aug 25

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1/ Commercial success is absolutely not a criterion of quality. Look, Rupi Kaur has 4.4 million followers on Instagram...

2/ Poetry hasn't interested the masses for a long time, apart from Rupi Kaur and her ilk;

3/ The way in which poetry (among other things) is received differs according to each individual (it is said that ‘tastes differ’). The only poets who are more or less the subject of a consensus are those we were taught at school (and they usually are dead), but who actually reads and appreciates them?

Yvonne Calder

Oct 11

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Rupi Kaur 4th book is of writing exercises for self healing. This is the problem with not editing, after the first flourish you need to examine your writing to push it beyond your initial limits. Janice Greenwood gave a good book review of her work and displayed some thought constructive editing of Rupi Kaur poems, but I don’t think there was any dialogue between them